Merry Magdalene

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  A bit of Rutherford info

  by Lady Lee in

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  you just never know what you might find out when you look at the small print.. i have seen many references to the judge's drinking habits - most often to excess.. the us prohibition started in 1920 and continued through to 1933. life must have been miserable for alcoholics and pushed many to create their own booze.

  prohibition in the united states (1920-1933) was the era during which the united states constitution outlawed the manufacture, transportation, and sale of alcoholic beverages.

  wiki.

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  Merry Magdalene

  Great stuff!

  Watchtower of November 1, 1924 article here--Prohibition.

  ~Merry
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  Official Australian records of E C Henninges and Rose Ball

  by Doug Mason in

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  2. bible

  if you go to the site of the australian government official archives at.

  http://www.naa.gov.au/the_collection/recordsearch.html.

  select "search now".

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  Merry Magdalene

  "should be considered and treated as an adopted daughter" after the death of her brother. Do we know when that was?

  "Some months" after the death of Rose's brother, according to the quote. Do we know when that death was? Hmmm...

  ~Merry
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  Official Australian records of E C Henninges and Rose Ball

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if you go to the site of the australian government official archives at.

  http://www.naa.gov.au/the_collection/recordsearch.html.

  select "search now".

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  Merry Magdalene

  And from the 1906 divorce transcript (I think), a portion as found here:

  Q.What did Rose do at the Watch Tower?A.She attended to the correspondence.
  Q. Where was her desk with reference to the desk of Mr. Russell in the Watch Tower Society?
  A. It wasn't near his; it was in the office.
  Q. When would he go to the Watch Tower in the morning?
  A. I don't remember; he generally went down alone.
  Q. Who would return with him?
  CT Russell response
  A. She came with him in the evenings, and they came home about eleven o'clock and the young men that were in the office - she was the only girl, and the young men would go home, and he wouldn't allow her to go home with them, and she must wait and always go with him.

  I like the bit that comes after your 1906 WT quote also Leo:

  The brother came first, and shortly after "Rose's" coming he died.

  It was some months later that Mr. Russell in the WATCH TOWER office, hearing sobbing, turned to find "Rose" in tears. Inquiring the cause, "Rose," still weeping, came over and sat on his knee, and complained that Mrs. Russell had worked her too hard before she started for the office; and that she felt weary and friendless. He told her that all that was a mistake. He defended Mrs. Russell as not intentionally unkind or unreasonable, and told "Rose" to do what she was able to do, cheerfully, and then to explain her weariness, and that he was sure nothing unreasonable would be asked. Then, suddenly drying her tears, "Rose" kissed [R3815 : page 222] Mr. Russell. Although surprised at all this Mr. R. did not resent it nor reprove it; but rather reproved himself for not having been previously more fatherly. That very night he talked with his wife about "Rose," and pointed out that she was surely lonely since her brother's death, and that it would be a duty to look after her interests more carefully.

  Mrs. Russell agreed, and it was mutually arranged that "Rose" thereafter should be considered and treated as anadopted daughter. "Rose" was so informed in the presence of the three, and invited to spend her evenings in the large study and reading room with the Russells. This course was followed; and when "Rose" retired, usually at 9 p.m., Mrs. Russell kissed her good-night and told her to "pass the kiss along" to Mr. R. also. This custom continued several years, until Mr. R. said to "Rose": "I think it best that I should discontinue kissing you; you are now wearing long dresses and looking more womanly, and Mrs. R. might get to feel jealous;--although she has never said a word to that effect, I would not wish to give her the slightest reason for so feeling."

  ~Merry
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  Official Australian records of E C Henninges and Rose Ball

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if you go to the site of the australian government official archives at.

  http://www.naa.gov.au/the_collection/recordsearch.html.

  select "search now".

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  Merry Magdalene

  Free copies of the Henninges' books can be obtained from Christian Bible Students Melbourne
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  Allow me to introduce myself

  by RollerDave in

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  i was raised among the witnesses and left in my early 30's due to a mixture of doctrinal disputes and social isolation.

  my mother and both of my sisters remain within the organization.

  i also have two brothers, one df'd, one who never quite caught the watchtower bug.. my road within the organization was a rocky one that eventually lead to a place where i found myself socially isolated within the congregation as a person simply unfit for fellowship with proper, upright, theocratic people who must cut off all 'worldy' association, suffer the ensueing isolation, and eat humble pie until such a time as they determined i was 'spiritual minded' enough for them to associate with.. baptism was held up as my expected goal, but despite trying, i was never quite good enough for them.

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  Merry Magdalene

  Loved the introduction! You're a pleasure to read...

  ~Merry
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  If you lived in Iraq ...

  by free2beme in

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  ... would you wake up each morning wondering, "is today the day i die in a suicide bombing, or will it be tomorrow?

  " i ask, as it seems a suicide bombing is becoming as common as breathing over there and i am convinced, it will not end until they all die and the last man standing will blow himself up, as that is just the thing you do.

  although, if we pull out, it will happen faster.

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  Merry Magdalene

  This idea that "they" are fundamentally different than "us" seems flawed to the core -- ie: " we " want to live and thrive and have freedom of belief and religion and happiness and a safe place to love and raise our children... but " they " only want to kill others and finally themselves.

  Totally agree. Please see [Sunni and Shiite] Scholars for Iraq Muslim Peacekeepers . Interesting article calling for reconciliation.

  And I wonder: if America were to experience a sudden and violent "regime change" from outside and most of our infrastructure was blown to smithereens and we were occupied, how much different would it be here? You don't think gangs and mobsters and militias and various individuals would be raising hell? You think we'd all be quickly and smoothly rebuilding everything and everyone would be all peaceful and cooperative with each other?

  ~Merry
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  Does Goofy Speculation of Prophecy by the WTBS reason to leave?

  by Mad in

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  many leave because of it- yet isn't the truth and the wtbs seperate entities?.

  the mad jw.

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  Merry Magdalene

  Do you know of any group that has a clear understanding of the prophecies?

  If no group, including them, has a clear understanding of Bible prophesy, why go along with any of them? Why choose any evil at all, even if you think it might be the "lesser" of the evils?

  They claim to be the faithful and discrete slave, a prophet class, not the frequently mistaken and goofily speculative slave.

  ~Merry
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  Survived a major heart attack mon AM

  by hambeak in

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  2. beliefs

  got up early and getting ready for work.

  couldn't breathe and lots of chest pain.

  had jake take me to er.

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  Merry Magdalene

  Oh my goodness! I'm so glad you survived and are on the road to recovery.Best wishes on continuing health improvement. May you enjoy every day.

  ~Merry
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  Please, sisters -- one sheet only.

  by Fatfreek in

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  a newssource today quotes singer sheryl crow, an anti-global warming (which i applaud) activist, "i propose a limitation be put on how many squares of toilet paper can be used in any one sitting.

  now, i dont want to rob any law-abiding american of his or her god-given rights, but i think we are an industrious enough people that we can make it work with only one square per restroom visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions where 2 to 3 could be required.".

  not being a woman i don't know about that -- i have my doubts.

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  Merry Magdalene

  tijkmo: have wrote a song called cost the earth to coincide with live earth day...

  Just got to listen to the rough cut--great song!!!

  ~Merry
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  Some people are just so kind

  by fullofdoubtnow in

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  when our friend marion was baptised a few months ago, trev and i went to the service, and we briefly met a couple there who have become good friends with marion since she has been attending their church.

  they seemed very nice people, and since then have occasionally asked marion how we are.

  they gave her a lift to the hospital to see me last thursday, and could see how concerned she was about me, i was very unwell last week.

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  Merry Magdalene

  How nice! I hope you both have a wonderful, restorative weekend

  ~Merry